Did something happen to Carnel just before the mother left for work?
Does she know more about what happened to her son, Carnel, than she has led the public to believe?
Does she protect Anthony Bennett?
Was there a blow up in the home between her boyfriend, Anthony Bennett and her son, Carnel, of which she was witness to, yet still left Carnel with the boyfriend?
The following is Statement Analysis of Jaimee Chamberlain, the mother of murdered 4 year old Carnel Chamberlain. Analysis is in bold type. Where the color blue is added, it is the highest indicator of sensitivity.
No statements have been edited.
GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight, live, Michigan. A 4-year-old child goes missing when Mommy goes to work at her job as a waitress, the little boy, a toddler, reportedly last seen playing in his own back yard. There is an aboveground pool back there. He seemingly vanishes without a trace.
Now, how can that be? You look in the back yard. Your child is there. He`s a toddler. He can`t go far. You look again, and he`s gone. But Mommy doesn`t find out the baby is missing until she gets home from her job as a waitress.
Straight out to Andrew Keller joining us from WNEM TV. Andrew, what happened?
ANDREW KELLER, WNEM TV (via telephone): Nancy, you sound as puzzled as I am. Yes, you (INAUDIBLE) This mother, Jaimee Chamberlain, went to work as her job as a host. And she was coming home. She called her boyfriend to check on her kid. Her boyfriend says, He`s not here. The mother ends up calling the police, and today...
GRACE: Whoa! Wait! Whoa, whoa, whoa! Back it up, Keller. Boyfriend? Who`s the boyfriend?
KELLER: His name is Anthony Bennett. And he is...
GRACE: Anthony Bennett. So she leaves the baby with the boyfriend. OK. Andrew Keller joining me from WNEM TV-5. Andrew, is he a live-in boyfriend?
KELLER: He`s a live-in boyfriend. He was supposed to watch Carnel as Carnel`s mother was at work. Carnel was...
GRACE: OK -- hold on, Andrew. Let me just -- let me just take this very slowly. So Mommy goes to work. She`s apparently making the living. She`s got a live-in. Not judging. Don`t care who lives with who. So Andrew Keller, let me get this straight. Mommy leaves the boy, the 4-year-old, in the care of the boyfriend, right?
Note sudden departure of pronouns at: "not judging" and "don't care..." distancing language, lack of commitment to sentences.
GRACE: You know, Jean, you know how much this is striking home for me. My children, my twins are 4, and by the time our program ends and I race home -- race -- home, you know, it`s 9:30, quarter of 10:00. You`re getting in after a long day of work, and what you look forward to is that child or those children. That`s why you race home. That`s why you work, to make a living for those children.
Joining me right now is a very special guest joining us exclusively. I`m hearing in my ear we have with us Jaimee Chamberlain. This is Carnel`s mother. Jaimee, thank you for being with us.
JAIMEE CHAMBERLAIN, CARNEL`S MOTHER (via telephone): Hello. Hi.
GRACE: Jaimee, tell me what -- when did you last see Carnel?
CHAMBERLAIN: I left work about 3:45 it's right up the street from where I live at.
The question is "when did you last see Carnel?" and the answer is what time she left for work. The word "left" is sensitive. 70% of the time it is sensitive due to rushing, being late, traffic, etc, but 30% of the time there is missing information that is critical to the account. Here there is missing information as the question is not directly answered. This should be considered sensitive (30%) since she tells us how close work is to the home.
It is likely that something happened just prior to her leaving work that is related to her son. She does not use her son's name, nor reference seeing him.
Since this indicates missing information at 3:45PM, we should look for linguistic indications that something was wrong before she left for work.
GRACE: OK, and you work as a waitress, right?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, at Isabellas , at the casino.
GRACE: OK. So you`re working as a waitress. You last see him at 3:45, and at that time, Jaimee, what was he doing?
CHAMBERLAIN: When I left last time, he was laying in my back bedroom watching me get ready for work while he was watching cartoons. That`s the last time I seen him was when he was watching "Adventure Time"! That was the last time I seen him, when I left for work, he was in my bedroom, and everything was fine! And then I left. And then that`s why -- you know, I called him, and then that`s when I found out about everything going on
This is an extremely sensitive time for the subject as we note the cluster of sensitivity seen in the color coding blue. Something happened during this time period and this is the missing information.
Note that his body posture is added; showing tension.
Note that the words "last time" are repeated.
Note the repetition of "left" indicating missing information specifically about her son.
Now notice the expression, "everything was fine" is a very strong indication that something was very very wrong.
Note what comes between the two "lefts" as critical to the story. Here she offers that "everything was fine" is offered, and not in the response to a direct question, "Was everything alright?"
That the boy was laying down, and that there is a high level of sensitivity attached to this time frame should cause investigators to learn what happened during this critical period of time.
Please notice that she has the need to explain why she did something; very sensitive. She said that she called him because of what happened at 3:45PM when everything was "fine."
If everything was fine at 3:45PM, why did she need to call him?
This is an indication that Jaimee Chamberlain is withholding information about her son and boyfriend that has to do with 3:45PM.
GRACE: So he`s at home with your boyfriend. And you`ve known the boyfriend for about a year, getting close to a year now. Had there ever been any disputes or problems between your boyfriend, Anthony Bennett, and your little boy, Carnel?
This is a simple yes or no question:
CHAMBERLAIN: The only thing that we recently started doing was, like, Anthony started, like, spanking him and started disciplining him. And we started putting him in the -- like, we`d been putting him a chair in the corner to discipline him. That`s the only thing that recently has been going on between him and Anthony that I know Carnel is upset about.
Anthony Bennett will likely fill in the missing information which will include the actions of Jaimee Chamberlain towards her son, Carnel.
Note that in the "yes or no" question she begins with "the only thing", which is a strong indication that there are more incidents she is not revealing. This is an example of deception via withholding information. We will likely learn that there were more "things" that took place against Carnel.
Note that pronouns don't lie. There is a strong connection between the subject and her boyfriend as shown in the pronoun, "we" used repeatedly.
Note the change of pronoun: "we started; Anthony started..." indicates deception. When she said "we started doing" and stopped herself, she was describing the discipline.
This is a very strong indicator that she was part of the physical abuse.
Since we know that Carnel was beaten and bruised on his rear end (the only thing she revealed) this suggests strongly:
They were both beating the boy.
Now she closed with Carnel being upset. Let's see if there is more linguistic evidence to connect the mother and boyfriend:
GRACE: Well, OK, let me ask you this, Jaimee. What would set Anthony, the boyfriend, off? Why would he feel he had to discipline 4-year-old Carnel? What would Carnel do to make him feel he needed to be spanked?
CHAMBERLAIN: I don`t even know because even at times, I`d tell him -- I asked him, why is he disciplining him. And like, he`d tell him to go sit in the time-out chair just because he`d be crying for a reason that he doesn`t want -- like, if he doesn`t want to do something, he`d just start crying, and Anthony would just put him in the chair to, you know, put him time out because if he`s crying for no reason.
She begins telling that she does not know, but then says she would "tell" him, and then changed to "ask" him why. This is done with the word "because", showing the reason why.
Carnel's "crying" is repeatedly mentioned, making it sensitive. She tells us why she did things.
That she doesn't "even know" is a deceptive answer.
GRACE: OK, what about spanking him? Why would he spank Carnel?
Nancy Grace missed the pronouns revealing deception and only asks why Bennett would spank Carnel.
CHAMBERLAIN: That much I don`t know. I know when I noticed the bruises on his butt, like, he tried demonstrating it for me, and like, I seen him, like, put a lot of force into it. And I asked him, I was, like, Why are you spanking him that hard? I told him you just need to tap (ph) him I don`t know -- you know, a powerful spank, like it was to a point where I noticed there was bruises on his butt.
She only "noticed" the bruises, soft language, after telling what she does not know but then she says that he "tried demonstrating"; with the word "tried" used in past tense means attempted but failed. "I seen him...put a lot of force into it": She watched Bennett assault Carnel.
Did this watching the assault of her son take place at 3:45PM?
Did anyone see Carnel alive after 3:45PM?
This is a question police need to ask.
GRACE: OK, Jaimee, Jaimee, your boyfriend was spanking the 4-year-old so hard, it left bruises on his behind?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it did.
She knows this because she saw it with her own eyes according to her language.
GRACE: What, if anything, did you do about that?
CHAMBERLAIN: Well, I didn`t think of -- I really -- at first, I didn`t think of anything of it, you know, until, like, you know, after all this happened. But I just thought, you know, maybe he spanked him hard to where, like, you know, Carnel learn it.
But I know how my son is, and I know you just have to talk to him about it. You know, I tried telling Anthony that, You don`t need to speak him. Like, Carnel is able -- you`re able to talk to him and he understands right from wrong.
She was part of the beatings.
Note she reports what she "didn't think"; and repeats it, showing that it is sensitive, first because he tells us what she did not think rather than what she did think; next because it is repeated. She then defends the beating: "you know, Carnel learned it"
Reminder that sentences that begin with "And" have missing information between sentences. Know "you know" as a habit that arises when the subject feels an acute awareness of the interviewer's presence, even over the phone, due to the question or topic.
GRACE: Well, I have a concern if he would spank the boy hard enough to bruise his little booty, that`s pretty forceful, to get bruises on your rear end.
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. Yes, I recently just -- I recently noticed this about - - it was about a week ago when I noticed the bruises on his butt.
The time frame is important. When this took place, he had been missing one week. Is this an indication that she found or "noticed" the bruises at 3:45PM?
The time frame is something that Nancy Grace seemed to pick up on:
GRACE: OK. So that`s been in the last week?
He had only been missing one week. Did the demonstration take place on Carnel's already bruised bottom at 3:45PM the last time she left for work before he was reported missing?
GRACE: When you asked him about it, what did he say Carnel had done to deserve a spanking?
CHAMBERLAIN: He hasn`t -- he hasn`t really explained to me why. He just said that, like -- I know one of the times is because he didn`t clean his room. And he said, I keep going in there and asking him, and he`s not doing what I`m saying. So I know he spanked him because one of the times just because he wouldn`t clean his room.
"he hasn't" is repeated making it sensitive; he hasn't "really" means he has.
Note the sensitivity indicators with both "so" and "because" explaining why.
As to multiple beatings, she admits that he has been beaten multiple times it with "one of the times"
She reported being eye witness to the one with force.
GRACE: (INAUDIBLE) your 4-year-old would clean his room?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. Yes. We were training him to be a grown man. And we were -- you know, he`d clean his room. We trained him to put his toys like, in the We, you know, got him to where he was getting his trash in the trash can. We were pretty much making -- trying to make him do chores and stuff at 4.
Please note that pronouns are instinctive; something we use since our first days of speech and are never wrong. Here we have the pronoun "we" after the beatings indicating "cooperation" and "unity" between mother and boyfriend.
This is another linguistic indicator that the mother was also beating Carnel: training him "to be a grown man" at age 4.
He was beaten for not cleaning his room and the word "we" indicates the unity between Jaimee and Anthony while beating him for not cleaning his room.
We "got him"
We were "making him" is then changed to "trying to make him"
do "chores and stuff"; what other "stuff" was the four year old doing besides cleaning his room, picking up his toys?
What else was the non working felon "making" and "trying to make" him do?
The use of the pronoun "we" continues and is linked to the discipline.
GRACE: Let me ask you about Carnel.
GRACE: How long has the boyfriend been living in the home? And did that bother your son, your 4-year-old son, when he moved in?
CHAMBERLAIN: Well, he moved in -- we started -- we dated about seven months now, and we moved in with each other around -- about the end of February or March. And this is the only man that my son has called Stepdad. He`s the only man that -- since his father has not been around, this is the only guy that Carnel felt comfortable enough to call him Stepdad.
First she begins with "he moved in" but changes it to "we moved in";
note "we started" and "we dated"
Note the word "now" indicates that at this time, one week after her son went missing, she is marking time as couples do in anniversary dating: they are still, at this time, a couple.
Although only together 7 months, she had him call Bennett "step dad" showing the authority recognized; which should be understood in context of these questions; discipline.
Note that Bennett is a "man" when being a "Stepdad" first, but when Carnel's name is used, he is a "guy".
GRACE: Well, did he ever complain about Anthony spanking him or being mean to him?
CHAMBERLAIN: he had complained to me about him being mean to him and stuff. And I just told him, I was, like -- you know, I was, like, You should just listen to what Anthony`s trying to say to you. Because I thought it was just him being -- you know, Carnel being, like, you know, a little boy trying to say, No, I don`t want to clean my room, you know? But I didn`t think of nothing like that until now.
Here we find another strong indicator of sensitivity. The child "complained" to her; this is a subtle blaming of the bruised and terrorized four year old.
Note "because" explains why she told him to listen, making it very sensitive.
Here we find her blaming Carnel again saying he was being like a little boy.
He was a little boy.
Note that she tells us what she did not think, rather than what she did think.
GRACE: With me tonight in a primetime exclusive, Carnel`s mom. She goes to work to support the family, comes home from her job waiting tables in a restaurant in a casino, the baby`s gone. There in the house, all propped (ph) up, the boyfriend.
Let me ask you this -- with me, Jaimee Chamberlain. She`s also taking your calls. And I also want to point out, according to my investigation, she`s already passed -- repeat, passed -- two separate polygraphs. And you know how I am on the parents. I think they should immediately submit to whatever police want so police can move off them and look for whoever took the child.
We are taking your calls. I want to go quickly to Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "Deal Breakers." You know, I have the twins in vacation Bible school. And I was with them all day after they were picked up, and it was only about six or seven hours later that my little boy told me that an older boy, as John David said, bullied on him at Bible school.
Took seven hours of me going, Well, what happened? Did you have fun? What did you do? And then I went and got independent corroboration -- Lucy -- and found out what had really happened. So I`m not at all surprised that Carnel maybe didn`t verbalize to his mother.
BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: Of course Carnel didn`t verbalize it. He`s a 4-year-old, and a 4-year-old will blame himself. But this is a classic case of child abuse in that Anthony was blurring the boundaries between what it means to be an adult and what it means to be a child. And giving a 4-year-old an adult task or an older child`s task of cleaning his room was, in effect, setting him up for punishment.
And it`s as if he, in his mind, wanted to prove that this boy was bad, so he gave him tasks that were developmentally inappropriate, then spanked him, then put him in the corner. And that was the sign that poor Jaimee should have seen.
Only a week had lapsed. So Jaimee, I don`t blame you at all for this. But as you sort of rewind history, I think that you should see that Anthony saw your child as bad. Anthony set your little boy up. And this
is the outcome so you can fill in the story of what might have happened that day that you were at work.
Lack of listening. The mother just said that Carnel "complained" to her. He did verbalize it. The "experts" are often difficult to listen to, especially when they fall over each other in a rush to not blame someone who appears on the show.
GRACE: ... clean up it`s whole room -- OK, I want to get back to Jaimee. With me is Carnel`s mom, joining me exclusively tonight. Jaimee, what is Anthony Bennett saying now?
CHAMBERLAIN: He still ain`t working with none of the police officers. He still has no contact with none of my family.
What is missing from her answer? The question is "what is he saying?" and she avoids answering it directly.
She reports he is "still" (ongoing to this day) working with police.
She then reports he has not contact with her family.
She does not say what he has said.
She does not say he has not had contact with her.
If she cannot bring herself to say he has no contact with her, we cannot say it for her.
GRACE: With me right now in a primetime exclusive, his mom joining me, Jaimee Chamberlain. She`s out working, supporting the family, comes home, the little boy is gone -- by all accounts, a peaceful, a sweet little boy, never gave anybody a day`s trouble. He`s gone, seemingly vanishing into thin air.
Jaimee Chamberlain, when you walked in the door that evening from work at Isabel`s (ph) restaurant, what was Anthony Bennett, your boyfriend, doing? When you walked in the door, where was he?
CHAMBERLAIN: He was walking to me. As soon as I opened the door, he was, like, walking out to me.
Note the "opened the door" phrase is often found in adults' language who have been sexually abused in childhood.
Her history is vital in learning if she had physically abused Carnel as she has indicated linguistically. The failure to protect and neglect are both obvious.
We would also want to learn if Carnel was sexually abused.
GRACE: And what did he say?
CHAMBERLAIN: He pretty much told me that he`s gone. And like, I just didn`t believe him. And that`s all I could think about is, like, I need to look everywhere first. I need to look -- I mean, I turned my house upside down looking for him.
"pretty much" means that there are more things he told her.
Note that she reports him saying "he's gone" and not "he's missing" This is critical and police should learn what the mother either knew or suspected.
And then there`s the next-door neighbors, where there`s a bunch of kids next door, and like, usually, when we`re outside, they`re, like, Come on, Carnel, come next door. And that was the second place I went to go look. And once they said they didn`t see my son, that`s when I knew I had to call the cops because I don`t know where he could have been!
"And" means missing information between these two sentences.
I want to know if the neighbors saw Carnel that afternoon or evening.
There is no need to explain "why" a mother of a missing child called police: the child is missing, yet here, the mother has a need to tell why she called the police.
This is a sensitive point to the mother.
Nancy Grace recognizes the vague and strange response:
GRACE: When you asked the live-in, Where is Carnel, what was his explanation as to the last time he saw him?
CHAMBERLAIN: He said he came up missing. That`s all he told me what happened. His story just doesn`t make sense, and he just came up missing.
NG knows this is without sense for what is reported to have happened. Sometimes when someone tells us "why" they did something when they should have no need to, it causes us to doubt (rightfully) the veracity, without, perhaps, understanding exactly why. This appears to be the conflict within Nancy Grace: anger as a mother, but not wanting to have the guest hang up the phone.
GRACE: Well, what do you mean came up missing? Did he leave the boy outside while he was inside?
CHAMBERLAIN: He said that he was cleaning -- he said he was in the house while Carnel was playing outside. And then he was telling everybody that he left the front door open, the sliding glass door open and a couple windows open. And it`s, like, Well, how come -- couldn`t you just hear him just take off, if that`s what happened? He said he didn`t hear nothing, said he didn`t see nothing.
the "cleaning" is very alarming. This should have caused the interviewer to question about evidence in the home.
GRACE: OK. Was the house clean when you came in? Did it look like he had really cleaned the house?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it was, until I -- later on that night, I noticed that there was something up in my bathroom.
CHAMBERLAIN: That my bathroom floor was wet, and that`s all I noticed that was messed up was in my bathroom.
GRACE: The bathroom floor was wet?
This is a major point that Grace asks as a repeated question, indicating its sensitivity. It is sensitive because it has taken this long to bring out something this major.
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. And it was wet to the point where my carpet even got wet. And he said that he drew me a bath before I got home, and he said -- he said -- I don`t know what he was doing. And then he said he just wasn`t paying attention and the bath water overflowed. And that`s why (INAUDIBLE) you`re not paying attention to my son! You`re not paying attention to this water that you`re supposed to be drawing me a bath for, then what are you doing? It just doesn`t make sense.
Note "he said" is repeated but then stopped. This means she is withholding information about what he said. The bath was for "me".
The inclusion of water and the reluctance on the part of the mother, cause me concern that Carnel may have been sexually abused. Are there other indicators?
GRACE: Has he taken a lie detector?
CHAMBERLAIN: No, he hasn`t. And then the next day, his dad helped him get a lawyer.
GRACE: With me tonight is his mother, who was at work that night, comes home, the baby is gone. To Jaimee Chamberlain, Carnel`s mom. Did your boyfriend, Anthony Bennett, have a job?
CHAMBERLAIN: No, he didn`t.
CHAMBERLAIN: Because he has two felonies on his record and nobody around us could help him out.
Note that his not working is a result of others not "helping": blaming others.
Note the pronoun "us"
GRACE: What kind of felonies?
CHAMBERLAIN: I want to say felonious assault and (INAUDIBLE)
GRACE: Ms. Chamberlain, were you concerned about leaving your child with him?
The obvious neglect issue is noted.
The question is about her being concerned about her child. Her answer reveals who she is, and what kind of life Carnel had:
CHAMBERLAIN: He said he loved me. And the only reason why I started trusting Anthony is because my brother introduced us and, you know, I was thinking because, you know, I`m my brother`s little sister that he wouldn`t send me somebody like that. I trusted him with everything, with my son.
Note the narcissistic answer of "me". Why would you leave your 4 year old to a felon who beat him? Because he loved me.
Note next that she blames her brother for this for introducing them as a couple.
She refuses to take responsibility, even for having the boyfriend move in.
Note that order may indicate priority:
She trust him with "everything" and "my son" with "everything" in her life coming before her son.
Carnel was the least of her priorities of "everything"
GRACE: Jamie, what can you tell us again about the bathroom.
CHAMBERLAIN: Because when I went in there and I first noticed it because I didn`t notice it until all the police were out looking and told me he`s there. And I was hoping that they would give me some information or in case he came home. And I was, you know, as soon as everybody was out looking for him, the first instance in my head was well, maybe I should go look in the house to see what was out of the ordinary.
Sensitivity noted. She knows more information that she is revealing.
And then, that`s when I walked in the bathroom and my feet started sinking in like it was wet and I noticed that the floor in my bathroom was wet and I have little candles that sit beside my bathtub and those were in the water. So, as soon as I seen that, you know, I had to let the FBI and everybody know what I noticed so they could see everything.
She is deceptive about the bathroom: it was so wet that her feet started to sink, yet she only "noticed" it was wet.
Note body posture indicating tension.
Notice that she "had" to let the FBI know, not something she was willing to do. This is a strong indication that she wanted to protect Anthony Bennett.
It is consistent with her priorities in life.
I remain concerned about sexual abuse.
GRACE: When you asked him what had happened in the bathroom, what did he say?
CHAMBERLAIN: He said he was drawing me a bath for when I got out of work. And he said that he wasn`t pay attention and al of a sudden, it overflowed.
GRACE: When you got home, was there water in the bathtub?
CHAMBERLAIN: There was, but you would think that if it was over flown, it would be over the top, and you would think all the water was drained out. The water was like - half way I there, more halfway in there than anything.
She was asked a simple question that she distances herself from it: "you would think..." is repeated. She did not say what she thought.
GRACE: Did you notice anything else out of place in the home? Jamie, did you notice anything else out of the place in the home?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, I did. And I just -- when everything happened, I like, you know, because I`m looking in the room, and I was looking around to see if anything was, you know, anything out of the ordinary after I seen the carpet. And as I was looking around on the floor to see what all got wet, I noticed his two, they`re brown stains on my carpet and I noticed that only the stains were wet and around the carpet was dry and my first instinct was like, OK, I better go get a paper towel to see what color came out of it. And then when I see it, it came out was brown and then, you know, my first instinct was blood so I stuck my hand in it and my hand was sticky and then when I smelled my hand, it smelled like cleaning products.
Lots of reason for concern: We have two "blues" of sensitivity and we have a "first instinct" but not a "second instinct" indicating there is missing information. She recognized that her son was missing, the bathroom was flooded and that there may have been blood, but uses the word "noticed" twice; which is weak and sensitive.
GRACE: So, do you believe someone -- is your bathroom carpeted?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it is.
GRACE: So, you think someone cleaned the bathroom carpet?
She reported smelling cleaning agents:
CHAMBERLAIN: I don`t know. I just know what I seen and I let the FBI take it from there.
GRACE: This is what I don`t understand, Jamie, so he says the boy`s missing, but he thought to draw you a bath while the little boy`s missing?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. That`s why it doesn`t make sense.
Did you notice that she drops "me" from her sentence here, something she uses often? This recognizes that it does not make sense: to all. This may be because NG used the words first. It was not something Jaimee offered herself.
GRACE: Did he normally clean the house, Jamie Chamberlain?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, he did.
GRACE: Jaimee Chamberlain, when did he say the last time it, that he saw the boy, Jaimee?
CHAMBERLAIN: He said 9:30?
GRACE: At night?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. 9:30 at night.
GRACE: And what does he say, he was doing? What is Carnel doing at 9:30 at night? He should have been in bed asleep, but what did he say he was doing?
CHAMBERLAIN: He said, he was out playing in the in the pool that on our porch in our backyard.
Please note that she previously reported that he didn't say anything, yet Statement Analysis shows missing information.
This is not lost on Nancy Grace:
GRACE: Well, Cloutier. This is new. This is completely new. OK. I thought he didn`t say anything. Now, I`m understanding, he says the boy was outside in the pool at 9:30 at night.
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. He said he was outside playing in the pool and he was inside cleaning the house.
GRACE: At 9:30 at night?
GRACE: Why wasn`t the little boy in bed, he`s 4 years old.
CHAMBERLAIN: Nancy, before I left for work, I told him to put my son to bed at 9:00.
She uses Nancy Grace's name, calling attention to the sentence. Note again, before she left for work is a very sensitive time frame for the mother.
GRACE: You know, back to Jaimee Chamberlain, this is Carnel`s mother. And I want to report to everyone, she has taken and passed with flying colors, two separate polygraph tests, she was the only one working to support the three of them. She`s at work at her job at Isabel`s restaurant there at the casino, gets home 9:30, the boyfriend, the live in says, little boy is gone and he was distracted to cleaning the house.
Now, I`m learning that he says the little boy was outside swimming in the backyard pool at 9:30 at night and the boyfriend is distracted cleaning the house. I also learn from Jaimee, tonight is the first we`re learning about this, the carpet in the bathroom was completely soaked. There was a brown stain and it smelled like cleaning fluid.
Jaimee, does your bathroom tub have one of those drain things right below the hot and cold water controls.
CHAMBERLAIN: It`s just a drain. We have in our back bedroom, we have a Jacuzzi. So I honestly don`t think it had a draining thing. I know where the Jacuzzi is, it has a little sitting point and then it has the switch on the jets and to control the jets and that`s it.
There is a strong connection between Chamberlain and Bennett, as the "we" continues its usage.
GRACE: Ok. Wait a minute. Wait. Is the bathtub also a Jacuzzi?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes it is.
GRACE: All right, so there`s not one of those little holes, kind of a drain right there underneath the hot and cold water control?
CHAMBERLAIN: No. No, there is not.
GRACE: You know, to Jaimee Chamberlain, this is Carnel`s mom, the description of him wearing the dark blue angry bird t-shirt, the blue short with the green trim is that what you observed him wearing when you went to work?
CHAMBERLAIN: No, it wasn`t.
GRACE: What was he wearing then?
CHAMBERLAIN: He was wearing dark -- dark green shorts with a light green trim and then the shirt, wasn`t even wearing a shirt when I left. He was just wearing shorts but as the cops were looking through my house and they told me to go through stuff, I actually found the wet pair of shorts that I see him wearing when I left for work.
There is extremely sensitive missing information about what happened just prior to her leaving for work at 3:45PM that she is withholding.
Is this when her son was beaten again?
Was she a part of the beating?
Did she approve of it?
Did she participate in it?
There is something very sensitive about this time period that is related to Carnel's short life. Jaimee Chamberlain's priority in life was, and is, Jaimee Chamberlain, and Anthony Bennett took strong precedence over Carnel in Jaimee Chamberlain's life.
There are linguistic indicators that connect physical abuse of Carnel to both Anthony Bennett and Jamiee Chamberlain.
Although she was at work when he went missing, (and killed), she still has a strong bond with Bennett and likely shares in guilt of child abuse of Carnel outside of just Neglect and failure to protect.
She is withholding information and it is likely to protect Anthony Bennett.
GRACE: You found him -- you found the green shorts?
CHAMBERLAIN: That he was wearing before I left for work and they were wet.
GRACE: So the shorts he was wearing when you went to work, were they sopping wet, like they had been underwater?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, they were like in between damp -- it was in between damp to wet, it was in between that.
GRACE: Where did you find them? Where were they?
CHAMBERLAIN: They were in our laundry room.
GRACE: Were they wet with water or wet with urine like he had wet his pants?
CHAMBERLAIN: They were wet like water.
GRACE: Why were they wet -- why were they wet?
CHAMBERLAIN: My first instinct was to think that them were the shorts he was wearing when he was playing outside. As soon as Anthony saw -- he made no sense to me, that`s when, even me, I thought he is probably not even wearing the clothes he said he was wearing. So --
here is the return of "to me" expression.
GRACE: Did you give police those shorts?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, I did. I gave them every piece of article I thought he was wearing. Yes.
GRACE: Jaimee, is the water in your pool chlorinated?
CHAMBERLAIN: No, it`s not.
GRACE: OK. So, it would be the same as the water in your bathtub, correct?
GRACE: What was your boyfriend`s explanation as to why your little boy`s pants were soaking wet?
CHAMBERLAIN: He didn`t say why. He just said he changed him.
that he "changed him" after reporting what he "didn't say" remains a concern about sexual abuse. Too many mentions of water to ignore.
I can understand that people will be angry with this post and the insinuation that the mother was also physically abuse to Carnel.
I believe she was.
I believe that she may have also beaten him before leaving to work, along with Anthony Bennett and expect Bennett to blame her as well.
I will not be surprised if she is arrested, not for murder, but for child abuse, endangerment, neglect etc.
Please also consider this regarding child abuse. It is something that child protective workers, social workers, teachers, and those in the field recognize:
It grows, often slowly, over time.
Generally, someone does not graduate to murder from spanking.
I removed most of the experts' statements as irrelevant, only left in the one which showed ignorance of child abuse. This mother is very much responsible.
Her ability to link herself to the boyfriend was not only just "he loves me" but the pronouns that show unity and cooperation ("we, us") are found in correlation to "making him a grown man" and discipline.
This makes her culpable, in the least, in the physical abuse, for approving and standing by, but more than likely not, it shows that she participated in it beyond just approving. Even 1 week after he disappeared there was still a "we" between them, and the "we" remained in all topics.
We may learn that that she beat Carnel just before leaving. If this comes from Bennett, it will be quickly dismissed by the ghouls selling t shirts on Facebook after he was found dead, as coming from a liar.
However, you will have read it here, first, from her own words.
Abuse escalates over time and these two appeared to making him be a servant in the home; ironic to see a non worker attempting to make a 4 year old do work in the house.
She revealed that it was not a one time beating that left bruises, though it may not have been picked up by the interviewer as she walked the balance between wanted to rebuke the mother for neglect, in the least, and not wanting to cause the show to be ruined by the mother hanging up the phone.
The mother's language is that of an abuser.
She blames others.
She blamed her brother.
She blamed her victim when she blamed her son's behavior.
She disparaged him for "crying for no reason" which is difficult, as a father, to read. Children cry for a reason and given his age, this is a signal of her lack of concern over him.
In the grandfather's statement, we find minimization, which is expected, and we see that there was a split in the family with some knowing that the mother was to blame.
The mother's appearance filled in the blanks of the grandfather's statements.
We also may understand why CPS, against its beliefs, had to place Carnel with strangers in foster care.
They may be extenuating circumstances:
1. No appropriate relatives. This is usually found in drug families where it seems that everyone is involved in drugs, like Hailey Dunn's family.
Given the statements of the grandfather, it is not something I feel was likely. My guess is this:
2. Reluctant family members.
This is far more likely.
Some are reluctant due to the mother's behavior, and fear of importing trouble into their home. Mothers can sabotage placement, so terribly, that officials have no choice but to place a child with strangers.
Some may have feared Jaimee, or her boyfriends, or the boy's father, who is now incarcerated.
Some may have had children of their own which needed protection from...Jaimee, or even from Carnel.
If Carnel was sexually abused, he may have had acting out behavior towards other children, which meant being placed in a home with children a mistake.
This is a tragic case of child abuse leading to eventual death.
The mother may have not caused the death, but she contributed to it, even as she makes excuses and blames others.